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Title: Trace element interpretation
Post by: John Donovan on March 19, 2016, 09:15:00 AM
This topic is for discussing trace element data interpretation which is often problematic.

To start I will discuss the trace elements in the RbTiOPO4 standard materials that Owen Neill, Brian Joy and I have been discussing recently in this topic:

http://smf.probesoftware.com/index.php?topic=301.msg4267#msg4267

Here for reference are the results I obtained from a quant measurement at 400 seconds on-peak and 400 seconds on the off-peaks:

Un    7 RbTiOPO4, Results in Elemental Weight Percents

ELEM:        K      Cs      Na      Ca      Mg      Rb      Ti       P       O
TYPE:     ANAL    ANAL    ANAL    ANAL    ANAL    SPEC    SPEC    SPEC    SPEC
BGDS:      LIN     EXP     EXP     LIN     LIN
TIME:   400.00  400.00  400.00  400.00  400.00     ---     ---     ---     ---
BEAM:   100.94  100.94  100.94  100.94  100.94     ---     ---     ---     ---

ELEM:        K      Cs      Na      Ca      Mg      Rb      Ti       P       O   SUM 
   360    .015    .013   -.014    .000   -.001  34.979  19.604  12.676  32.741 100.014
   361    .016    .012   -.016    .000   -.001  34.979  19.604  12.676  32.741 100.012
   362    .016    .015   -.012    .000    .000  34.979  19.604  12.676  32.741 100.019
   363    .015    .013   -.017    .000   -.002  34.979  19.604  12.676  32.741 100.010
   364    .016    .015   -.010    .000    .000  34.979  19.604  12.676  32.741 100.021
   365    .015    .013   -.012    .000    .000  34.979  19.604  12.676  32.741 100.017
   366    .016    .012   -.013    .000   -.001  34.979  19.604  12.676  32.741 100.014

AVER:     .016    .014   -.013    .000   -.001  34.979  19.604  12.676  32.741 100.015
SDEV:     .000    .001    .003    .000    .001    .000    .000    .000    .000    .004
SERR:     .000    .000    .001    .000    .000    .000    .000    .000    .000
%RSD:     2.86    9.44  -18.91  273.41  -74.31     .00     .00     .00     .00

I'll start with the Na because a negative result is almost always an off-peak interference. But how can we know that?  If we go into the PFE Elements/Cations dialog we can use the Hi and Lo off-peak interference buttons to calculate the nominal interferences for this element as seen here:

(https://smf.probesoftware.com/gallery/1_19_03_16_8_59_49.png)

The text result are here:

For Na ka (hi-off),    TAP at  12.5222 angstroms( 48685.8), at an assumed concentration of 1 wt.%
  Interference by P  KA1      II    at  12.3180 ( 47890.8) =      5.4%
  Interference by P  KA2      II    at  12.3240 ( 47914.2) =      3.8%
  Interference by Ca SKB``    IV    at  12.3280 ( 47929.8) =       .2%
  Interference by Ca SKB^5    IV    at  12.3460 ( 47999.8) =       .5%
  Interference by Ca KB3      IV    at  12.3610 ( 48058.2) =      6.6%
  Interference by Ca KB1      IV    at  12.3610 ( 48058.2) =     11.6%
  Interference by Ca SKB`     IV    at  12.4050 ( 48229.5) =      5.2%
  Interference by Ca SKBN     IV    at  12.5300 ( 48716.1) =     31.7%
  Interference by Cs LB2      V     at  12.5610 ( 48836.8) =    267.7%
  Interference by Ti KB3      V     at  12.5720 ( 48879.6) =     79.1%
  Interference by Ti KB1      V     at  12.5720 ( 48879.6) =    140.3%


Note the significant interference from the 2nd order P Ka tails.  For the low off-peak side we obtain this:

For Na ka (lo-off),    TAP at  11.3676 angstroms( 44191.1), at an assumed concentration of 1 wt.%
  Interference by Cs LG3      V     at  11.1660 ( 43406.4) =       .3%
  Interference by K  SKA3``   III   at  11.1710 ( 43425.9) =       .1%
  Interference by K  SKA`     III   at  11.1850 ( 43480.4) =       .2%
  Interference by K  SKA``    III   at  11.2150 ( 43597.1) =       .8%
  Interference by K  KA1      III   at  11.2270 ( 43643.9) =    123.0%
  Interference by K  KA2      III   at  11.2370 ( 43682.8) =     89.0%
  Interference by Na SKB^4          at  11.3140 ( 43982.5) =       .5%
  Interference by Cs SLA9     IV    at  11.3830 ( 44251.1) =     31.0%
  Interference by P  SKB^4    II    at  11.3900 ( 44278.4) =     12.5%
  Interference by P  SKB``    II    at  11.4230 ( 44406.8) =      8.9%
  Interference by Cs SLA8     IV    at  11.4310 ( 44438.0) =     18.8%
  Interference by Cs SLA7     IV    at  11.4660 ( 44574.2) =      8.9%
  Interference by Cs SLA6     IV    at  11.5040 ( 44722.1) =      2.8%
  Interference by Cs SLA5     IV    at  11.5160 ( 44768.8) =      1.8%
  Interference by Cs SLA3     IV    at  11.5520 ( 44909.0) =       .4%
  Interference by Cs LA1      IV    at  11.5710 ( 44983.0) =     13.7%
  Interference by Cs LA2      IV    at  11.6090 ( 45130.9) =       .2%


On the low off-peak side we see significant interference from the 2nd order P Ka satellite lines.  This situation definitely calls for the multi-point off-peak background method!
Title: Re: Trace element interpretation
Post by: John Donovan on March 19, 2016, 09:38:24 AM
Ok, so the negative Na result is an obvious problem.  But how do we know that the positive results from K and Cs are real?

On the K front, Brian presented the K wavescan, and since the K Ka and K Kb peaks are both present that is highly suggestive that trace K is present in the RbTiOPO4 material. Here is my wavescan (6 seconds per point), and even with that short a scan time, the K Ka peak is clearly visible (I didn't scan wide enough to catch the K Kb peak):

(https://smf.probesoftware.com/gallery/1_19_03_16_9_27_39.png)

But could this be a secondary (or higher order) peak from one of the major elements?  Let's go back to PFE and this time use the Standard Assignments dialog to check for nominal on-peak interferences.

(https://smf.probesoftware.com/gallery/1_19_03_16_9_30_51.png)

So there is a significant interference from Rb but it is 4th order so it should be very weak, and the interfering Rb peak positions are hundreds of spectrometer units away from the K on-peak position... and the presence of both the Ka and Kb peaks (in Brian's scan) is very consistent with potassium actually being present.  And his K Kb peak is smaller than his K Ka peak, again consistent with potassium being present.

But ideally we'd probably want to perform an interference correction for Rb on K using any Rb standard that we know doesn't contain potassium (!), to be sure. Or perform a blank measurement on a pure RbTiOPO4 standard.  Which is what we are trying to create here so round and round it goes!
Title: Re: Trace element interpretation
Post by: John Donovan on March 19, 2016, 09:55:39 AM
On the Cs front, I'm going to agree with Brian again.

A close look at the Cs La on LPET wavescan shows a nasty tail from the Ti Ka on the Cs La peak position.

(https://smf.probesoftware.com/gallery/1_19_03_16_9_53_50.png)

A measurement using a large LIF crystal (instead of the PET crystal I used) would be a much better measurement as the peak position goes from a very low spectrometer angle to a very high spectrometer angle.

This is a great example of why trace element interpretation can be problematic!   :-[

I'm going to try again with multi-point bgds on Na and Cs on a LLIF crystal over the weekend.
Title: Re: Trace element interpretation
Post by: Brian Joy on March 19, 2016, 10:34:51 AM
Quote from: John Donovan on March 19, 2016, 09:38:24 AM
(https://smf.probesoftware.com/gallery/1_19_03_16_9_30_51.png)

So there is a significant interference from Rb but it is 4th order so it should be very weak, and the interfering Rb peak positions are hundreds of spectrometer units away from the K on-peak position... and the presence of both the Ka and Kb peaks (in Brian's scan) is very consistent with potassium actually being present.  And his K Kb peak is smaller than his K Ka peak, again consistent with potassium being present.

But ideally we'd probably want to perform an interference correction for Rb on K using any Rb standard that we know doesn't contain potassium (!), to be sure. Or perform a blank measurement on a pure RbTiOPO4 standard.  Which is what we are trying to create here so round and round it goes!

Note that Rb K_edge = 15.199 keV.  I used beam energy = 15 keV.
Title: Re: Trace element interpretation
Post by: John Donovan on March 19, 2016, 10:49:20 AM
Quote from: Brian Joy on March 19, 2016, 10:34:51 AM
Quote from: John Donovan on March 19, 2016, 09:38:24 AM
(https://smf.probesoftware.com/gallery/1_19_03_16_9_30_51.png)

So there is a significant interference from Rb but it is 4th order so it should be very weak, and the interfering Rb peak positions are hundreds of spectrometer units away from the K on-peak position... and the presence of both the Ka and Kb peaks (in Brian's scan) is very consistent with potassium actually being present.  And his K Kb peak is smaller than his K Ka peak, again consistent with potassium being present.

But ideally we'd probably want to perform an interference correction for Rb on K using any Rb standard that we know doesn't contain potassium (!), to be sure. Or perform a blank measurement on a pure RbTiOPO4 standard.  Which is what we are trying to create here so round and round it goes!

Note that Rb K_edge = 15.199 keV.  I used beam energy = 15 keV.

Excellent point!   This certainly explains why you didn't see that interference!  I should have the nominal interference calculation in PFE check for that!

Edit by John: I actually ran my trace elements at 20 keV (100 nA), so that is why PFE printed the Rb Ka interference out!

But still it would be a low overvoltage (~1.3), so unlikely to show up well as a 4th order interference.

I also will run my UC Berkeley RbTiOPO4 against the CalChemist material and see if there's any difference in the apparent K signal
Title: Re: Trace element interpretation
Post by: Probeman on March 21, 2016, 01:55:43 PM
I ran a more careful characterization on both the CalChemist and the original UC Berkeley RbTiOPO4 material and thought I would share how I set up the analysis for the same trace elements as before, that is K, Cs, Na, Ca and Mg.

For starters I decided to measure using the same crystals, specifically the large PET (LPET) crystal for Cs la, which puts the spectrometer at a fairly low sin theta and due to the lower spectral resolution of the PET crystal compared with LIF or LLIF, to just deal with the over lap from the tail of the Ti ka line.  So I also measured Ti for this interference correction. 

Also I utilized multi-point bgds (MPB) on all the trace elements so we have more leeway in fitting the backgrounds in post processing.  Measuring traces in RbTiOPO4 isn't as bad a monazite, which is a REE "zoo", but it does have its interesting background issues.

So first let's start with K Ka. Here is a wavescan plot of the RbTiOPO4 (CalChemist) material using 12 secs per point with the original (traditional) off-peaks shown in magenta:

(https://smf.probesoftware.com/gallery/395_21_03_16_1_50_52.png)

Now the same, but with the multi-point bgds I selected (four on each side):

(https://smf.probesoftware.com/gallery/395_21_03_16_1_52_34.png)

Here is an example of one point analysis showing the MPBs selected automatically by the software, though they can be manually selected as well (I overlaid the wavescan from above to show the K Ka peak):

(https://smf.probesoftware.com/gallery/395_21_03_16_1_54_15.png)

Note the exponential fit based on the 4 selected multi-point background measurements (320 sec on-peak, and 160 seconds on each of the 4 off-peaks).
Title: Re: Trace element interpretation
Post by: Probeman on March 21, 2016, 02:21:49 PM
Now let's look at Cs La.

Here is the Cs wavescan (20 keV, 100 nA, 10 um 200 points):

(https://smf.probesoftware.com/gallery/395_21_03_16_2_02_37.png)

Now the same plot zoomed in Y and showing the MPBs for Cs La. Note the exponential fit and the Ti ka tails:

(https://smf.probesoftware.com/gallery/395_21_03_16_2_03_40.png)

Now if we plot up the MPBs with the wavescan data we can immediately see the background fit problem. And that is that there is *no background* between the Ti ka and Ti Kb peaks!

(https://smf.probesoftware.com/gallery/395_21_03_16_2_06_22.png)

We can have the program only use 1 off-peak on the low side of the cs La peak to avoid the background between the Ti ka and Ti Kb peaks, but the single low side background is still probably on the tail of the Ti KLb peak... yes, yes, we should be measuring Cs La using an LIF crystal, but this is still instructive to see what we can do in adverse circumstances...

If we select only one background on the low side we get this, which is an improvement, but still not good enough:

(https://smf.probesoftware.com/gallery/395_21_03_16_2_23_29.png)

I'm going to perform a wider scan this time going further on the low side to see if we ever get to actual background past the Ti Kb peak...
Title: Re: Trace element interpretation
Post by: Probeman on March 21, 2016, 02:49:56 PM
Just for completeness, here are the plots for Na, Ca and Mg. First here is Na Ka. There could be an interference on Na Ka from the tail of the P Ka 3rd order peak as seen here:

(https://smf.probesoftware.com/gallery/395_21_03_16_2_47_10.png)

And indeed if I analyze my YPO4 standard get about 600-700 PPM of Na apparently from an interference by P Ka 3rd order:

ELEM:        K      Cs      Na      Ca      Mg      Ti       P      Rb       O       Y   SUM 
   275    .000   -.007    .063    .000   -.003    .006  16.836    .000  34.805  48.350 100.050
   276    .001   -.015    .070   -.002   -.001    .004  16.868    .000  34.805  48.350 100.081
   277    .005   -.010    .068   -.002    .002    .004  16.842    .000  34.805  48.350 100.064

AVER:     .002   -.011    .067   -.001    .000    .005  16.849    .000  34.805  48.350 100.065
SDEV:     .002    .004    .004    .001    .002    .001    .017    .000    .000    .000    .016
SERR:     .001    .002    .002    .001    .001    .001    .010    .000    .000    .000
%RSD:   119.51  -39.50    5.75  -88.93 -523.22   22.07     .10     .00     .00     .00

There does indeed appear to be a small Ca peak..

(https://smf.probesoftware.com/gallery/395_21_03_16_2_47_53.png)

(https://smf.probesoftware.com/gallery/395_21_03_16_2_48_46.png)

But not much Mg.  The quant will tell us.
Title: Re: Trace element interpretation
Post by: Brian Joy on March 21, 2016, 05:56:00 PM
Quote from: Probeman on March 21, 2016, 02:21:49 PM
We can have the program only use 1 off-peak on the low side of the cs La peak to avoid the background between the Ti ka and Ti Kb peaks, but the single low side background is still probably on the tail of the Ti KLb peak... yes, yes, we should be measuring Cs La using an LIF crystal, but this is still instructive to see what we can do in adverse circumstances...

If we select only one background on the low side we get this, which is an improvement, but still not good enough:

(https://smf.probesoftware.com/gallery/395_21_03_16_2_23_29.png)

I'm going to perform a wider scan this time going further on the low side to see if we ever get to actual background past the Ti Kb peak...

But keep in mind that the Ti K absorption edge produces a discontinuity in the continuum on the low sine(theta) side of the Ti Kb peak.  Measurement of background on opposing sides of an absorption edge could cause the concentration of a trace element to be overestimated significantly (aside from problems with the high sine(theta) tail on Ti Ka).  Why not just choose "background" offsets (using a non-linear model) on either side of the Cs La peak position and all on the high-sine(theta) tail of Ti Ka, especially since the matrix is essentially constant in composition?
Title: Re: Trace element interpretation
Post by: Probeman on March 21, 2016, 06:24:57 PM
Quote from: Brian Joy on March 21, 2016, 05:56:00 PM
But keep in mind that the Ti K absorption edge produces a discontinuity in the continuum on the low sine(theta) side of the Ti Kb peak.  Measurement of background on opposing sides of an absorption edge could cause the concentration of a trace element to be overestimated significantly (aside from problems with the high sine(theta) tail on Ti Ka).  Why not just choose "background" offsets (using a non-linear model) on either side of the Cs La peak position and all on the high-sine(theta) tail of Ti Ka, especially since the matrix is essentially constant in composition?

Absolutely.  That might work too.  Here's an example from my Amer. Min. paper (2011) of Al Ka in quartz where the tail of the Si Ka peak sits on the Al peak:

(https://smf.probesoftware.com/gallery/395_21_03_16_8_38_11.jpeg)

It will be interesting to see the shape of the continuum on the low side.  Unfortunately it will have to wait a few days as our x-axis has just failed on our SX100 stage.   :'(

I'm excited to attempt an interference correction from the Ti overlap on Cs La on this PET crystal.  You know- "failure mode" testing...    :D
Title: Re: Trace element interpretation
Post by: Probeman on April 03, 2016, 03:30:52 PM
Good news, my Sx100 stage is operational again and I acquired a nice multi-point background run this weekend on the RbTiOPO4 (both UC Berkeley and CalChemist material).

I'll post the quant results tomorrow... in the meantime here is the MPB background fit for the Cs La line in this matrix:

(https://smf.probesoftware.com/gallery/395_03_04_16_3_33_46.png)

Brian Joy is absolutely correct: a sane person would run this element on an LiF crystal due to the nasty Ti ka interference, not to mention the absorption edge issue on the other side of the Ti Kb peak, but when the quantitative iterated interference correction is applied from the TiO2 standard, a very interesting thing happens (but only if the same MPB positions were utilized for both the standard and the unknown).  Tomorrow...

Strange when you think about it, that we often run our EPMA standards and unknowns differently, because every other analytical field I know of generally treats unknowns and controls as much the same as possible to rule out problems from things we don't know about.  Of course I understand the reason (to save time), but still.
Title: Re: Trace element interpretation
Post by: Probeman on April 04, 2016, 11:02:36 AM
So we'll get back to the Cs La trace characterization in a moment because it is quite interesting, but in the meantime I ran a wider wavescan on the RbTiOPO4 to see the Cs La background on the low side of the Ti Kb peak and it appears to be measuring the actual background (whether the Ti K edge is complicating things or not remains to be seen, as I have an "ace up my sleeve" with the quantitative interference correction!).

(https://smf.probesoftware.com/gallery/395_04_04_16_10_25_29.png)

In the meantime here are the results starting with potassium. First a plot of the multi-point-backgrounds (MPB) with a fairly high precision wavescan using 12 seconds per point:

(https://smf.probesoftware.com/gallery/395_04_04_16_10_59_40.png)

The Ar absorption edge is obvious but there appears to be no other continuum artifacts to be concerned with as seen in this closer look:

(https://smf.probesoftware.com/gallery/395_04_04_16_11_01_09.png)

Of most concern would be the possibility that the Rb 4th order reflections could be interfering with the K emission line and creating an apparent K concentration.  But I am not concerned for three reasons:

1. The Rb K edge is 15.2 keV and although we ran the acquisition at 20 keV, that is still a very low overvoltage (~1.31) so our sensitivity should be very poor.

2. Any 4th order reflections that are present should be dramatically suppressed by the use of differential mode in PHA.

3. The position of the 4th order reflections are off enough to suspect that they are not at the K Ka position, though sometimes, these calculations can be off a little. But the best evidence against the Rb Ka 4th order reflections being present is that we should be able to resolve the Ka1/Ka2 split and instead we see a single clean peak which makes sense for K ka.

Finally, we should expect some K to be present as this is a RbTiOPO4 material and potassium would be expected as a contaminant.
Title: Re: Trace element interpretation
Post by: Probeman on April 04, 2016, 11:23:38 AM
Now for Na it is a little more messy.  We have some P K 2nd order reflections that could easily interfere with the Na backgrounds. The P Ka1/Ka2 2nd order reflection is obvious, while the small peak to the left could be the satellite P SKA6 2nd order and that seems to be confirmed by the larger P SKBX 2nd order reflection further to the left.

(https://smf.probesoftware.com/gallery/395_04_04_16_11_22_13.png)

But all in all, the backgrounds selected by the MPB method (points circled in red), seem to be otherwise pretty good, though it is a nasty part of the spectrum.
Title: Re: Trace element interpretation
Post by: Probeman on April 04, 2016, 12:12:01 PM
Now let's turn to Ca and Mg.  Both appear to be pretty clean with respect to backgrounds. First Ca Ka:

(https://smf.probesoftware.com/gallery/395_04_04_16_11_40_11.png)

This scan was 20 seconds per point, so again fairly high precision. 

For Mg Ka, we can see a small Ti Ka satellite (4th order!) reflection, but otherwise the background appears free from artifacts (again 20 seconds per point):

(https://smf.probesoftware.com/gallery/395_04_04_16_12_10_43.png)
Title: Re: Trace element interpretation
Post by: Probeman on April 04, 2016, 02:10:10 PM
Now for the trace characterization of Cs La using a PET crystal in our RbTiOPO4 matrix.

As Brian Joy has pointed out, we really should be using an LIF crystal for this analysis, due to the higher resolution and higher sin theta of the LIF for Cs La, but let's run the experiment. Recall the significant interference from Ti ka due to the tail of the Ti Ka peak:

(https://smf.probesoftware.com/gallery/395_04_04_16_10_25_29.png)

If we calculate the nominal interferences using the Standard Assignments dialog, we obtain this prediction assuming Gaussian peak overlaps:

(https://smf.probesoftware.com/gallery/395_04_04_16_1_38_39.png)

So, without an interference specified let's see what we obtain for our trace elements. First a report on the analytical setup:

Un    4 CalChemist RbTiOPO4 #2
TakeOff = 40.0  KiloVolt = 20.0  Beam Current = 100.  Beam Size =   10
(Magnification (analytical) =  20000),        Beam Mode = Analog  Spot
(Magnification (default) =     1000, Magnification (imaging) =   1000)
Image Shift (X,Y):                                         .00,    .00

Compositional analyses were acquired on an electron microprobe (Cameca SX100 (TCP/IP Socket)) equipped with 5 tunable wavelength dispersive spectrometers. Operating conditions were 40 degrees takeoff angle, and a beam energy of 20 keV. The beam current was 100 nA, and the beam diameter was 10 microns.

Elements were acquired using analyzing crystals LPET for K ka, Cs la, Ti ka, P ka, PET for Ca ka, LPET for K ka, Cs la, Ti ka, P ka, and TAP for Na ka, Mg ka.

The standards were TiO2 synthetic for Ti ka, Nepheline (partial anal.) for Na ka, Diopside (Chesterman) for Mg ka, Ca ka, Orthoclase MAD-10 for K ka, YPO4 (USNM 168499) for P ka, and Pollucite, PA-031 for Cs la.

The counting time was 80 seconds for Ti ka, P ka, 320 seconds for K ka, Cs la, and 400 seconds for Mg ka, Na ka, Ca ka. The off peak counting time was 80 seconds for Ti ka, P ka, 320 seconds for K ka, Cs la, and 400 seconds for Mg ka, Na ka, Ca ka. Off Peak correction method was Exponential for Ti ka, P ka, and Multi-Point for Na ka, Ca ka, Mg ka, K ka, Cs la.

Unknown and standard intensities were corrected for deadtime. Standard intensities were corrected for standard drift over time.

Results are the average of 12 points and detection limits ranged from .001 weight percent for K ka to .002 weight percent for Na ka to .003 weight percent for P ka.

Analytical sensitivity (at the 99% confidence level) ranged from .044 percent relative for Ti ka to 4.937 percent relative for Cs la to 70.071 percent relative for Na ka.

The exponential or polynomial background fit was utilized.

See John J. Donovan, Heather A. Lowers and Brian G. Rusk, Improved electron probe microanalysis of trace elements in quartz, American Mineralogist, 96, 274­282, 2011


And here are the results (without the interference correction for Ti on Cs La):

Un    4 CalChemist RbTiOPO4 #2, Results in Elemental Weight Percents

ELEM:        K      Cs      Na      Ca      Mg      Ti       P      Rb       O
TYPE:     ANAL    ANAL    ANAL    ANAL    ANAL    ANAL    ANAL    SPEC    SPEC
BGDS:     MULT    MULT    MULT    MULT    MULT     EXP     EXP
TIME:   320.00  320.00  400.00  400.00  400.00   80.00   80.00     ---     ---
BEAM:    99.63   99.63   99.63   99.63   99.63   99.63   99.63     ---     ---

ELEM:        K      Cs      Na      Ca      Mg      Ti       P      Rb       O   SUM 
    37    .018    .028    .001    .003    .000  19.427  12.506  34.979  32.741  99.702
    38    .017    .028    .000    .003    .000  19.454  12.522  34.979  32.741  99.744
    39    .017    .028    .000    .001   -.001  19.485  12.505  34.979  32.741  99.756
    40    .018    .029    .001    .003    .000  19.516  12.542  34.979  32.741  99.828
    41    .019    .027    .002    .004    .001  19.465  12.500  34.979  32.741  99.736
    42    .018    .028   -.002    .002   -.001  19.446  12.511  34.979  32.741  99.723
    43    .018    .027    .001    .002   -.001  19.471  12.568  34.979  32.741  99.805
    44    .018    .026    .002    .002    .000  19.445  12.496  34.979  32.741  99.707
    45    .018    .026   -.002    .002    .000  19.488  12.478  34.979  32.741  99.730
    46    .018    .024    .001    .003    .000  19.527  12.567  34.979  32.741  99.860
    47    .018    .026   -.001    .003   -.001  19.489  12.544  34.979  32.741  99.797
    48    .019    .028    .001    .002   -.001  19.507  12.506  34.979  32.741  99.781

AVER:     .018    .027    .000    .002    .000  19.477  12.520  34.979  32.741  99.764
SDEV:     .000    .002    .001    .001    .001    .031    .029    .000    .000    .050
SERR:     .000    .000    .000    .000    .000    .009    .008    .000    .000
%RSD:     2.29    5.61  712.86   31.93 -247.65     .16     .23     .00     .00
STDS:      374    1125     336     358     358      22    1016     ---     ---


The Ti interference is around 270 PPM in the RbTiOPO4 matrix.  Now let's check our TiO2 standard which will be used for the interference correction:

St   22 Set   2 TiO2 synthetic, Results in Elemental Weight Percents

ELEM:        K      Cs      Na      Ca      Mg      Ti       P      Rb       O
TYPE:     ANAL    ANAL    ANAL    ANAL    ANAL    ANAL    ANAL    SPEC    SPEC
BGDS:     MULT    MULT    MULT    MULT    MULT     EXP     EXP
TIME:    40.00   40.00   40.00   40.00   40.00   40.00   40.00     ---     ---
BEAM:    99.85   99.85   99.85   99.85   99.85   99.85   99.85     ---     ---

ELEM:        K      Cs      Na      Ca      Mg      Ti       P      Rb       O   SUM 
   279    .001    .081    .001   -.003   -.001  59.882    .001    .000  40.050 100.011
   280    .003    .076    .002    .002    .003  59.955    .000    .000  40.050 100.090
   281    .002    .080    .003    .000    .000  59.991    .001    .000  40.050 100.126
   282    .002    .079   -.002    .003    .002  59.906   -.002    .000  40.050 100.039

AVER:     .002    .079    .001    .000    .001  59.934    .000    .000  40.050 100.067
SDEV:     .001    .002    .002    .003    .002    .049    .001    .000    .000    .052


Note the we see an apparent Cs concentration of 790 PPM in our TiO2 due to the interference from Ti Ka. 

Now we apply the interference correction by simply selecting Ti as the interfering element and TiO2 as the interference standard (because it contains no Cs, and contains a known amount of the interfering element Ti, and no other interfering elements). 

Remember, because the interference correction in Probe for EPMA is iterated and quantitative, the differences in the matrix corrections between the unknown (RbTiOPO4), and the interference standard (TiO2) are properly and automatically dealt with.

Un    4 CalChemist RbTiOPO4 #2, Results in Elemental Weight Percents

ELEM:        K      Cs      Na      Ca      Mg      Ti       P      Rb       O
TYPE:     ANAL    ANAL    ANAL    ANAL    ANAL    ANAL    ANAL    SPEC    SPEC
BGDS:     MULT    MULT    MULT    MULT    MULT     EXP     EXP
TIME:   320.00  320.00  400.00  400.00  400.00   80.00   80.00     ---     ---
BEAM:    99.63   99.63   99.63   99.63   99.63   99.63   99.63     ---     ---

ELEM:        K      Cs      Na      Ca      Mg      Ti       P      Rb       O   SUM 
    37    .018    .002    .001    .003    .000  19.428  12.506  34.979  32.741  99.677
    38    .017    .002    .000    .003    .000  19.454  12.521  34.979  32.741  99.719
    39    .017    .003    .000    .001   -.001  19.486  12.505  34.979  32.741  99.731
    40    .018    .003    .001    .003    .000  19.517  12.542  34.979  32.741  99.803
    41    .019    .001    .002    .004    .001  19.466  12.499  34.979  32.741  99.711
    42    .018    .002   -.002    .002   -.001  19.447  12.511  34.979  32.741  99.698
    43    .018    .001    .001    .002   -.001  19.472  12.568  34.979  32.741  99.780
    44    .018    .000    .002    .002    .000  19.445  12.496  34.979  32.741  99.682
    45    .018    .000   -.002    .002    .000  19.489  12.478  34.979  32.741  99.704
    46    .018   -.002    .001    .003    .000  19.528  12.567  34.979  32.741  99.835
    47    .018    .001   -.001    .003   -.001  19.489  12.543  34.979  32.741  99.772
    48    .019    .002    .001    .002   -.001  19.507  12.506  34.979  32.741  99.756

AVER:     .018    .001    .000    .002    .000  19.477  12.520  34.979  32.741  99.739
SDEV:     .000    .002    .001    .001    .001    .031    .029    .000    .000    .050
SERR:     .000    .000    .000    .000    .000    .009    .008    .000    .000
%RSD:     2.29  128.51  712.86   31.93 -247.65     .16     .23     .00     .00
STDS:      374    1125     336     358     358      22    1016     ---     ---

STKF:    .1102   .2652   .0583   .1676   .0644   .5616   .1496     ---     ---
STCT:   9129.3 11088.8  1550.4  7022.5  3286.5 64371.5  4913.6     ---     ---

UNKF:    .0002   .0000   .0000   .0000   .0000   .1753   .0763     ---     ---
UNCT:     12.9      .4      .0      .9     -.1 20095.1  2504.8     ---     ---
UNBG:     45.8   156.1    11.1    40.4    22.7   132.4     7.6     ---     ---

ZCOR:   1.1552  1.1604  2.6811  1.0545  1.8314  1.1110  1.6413     ---     ---
KRAW:    .0014   .0000   .0000   .0001   .0000   .3122   .5098     ---     ---
PKBG:     1.28    1.00    1.00    1.02    1.00  152.73  330.98     ---     ---
INT%:     ----  -95.91    ----    ----    ----    ----    ----     ---     ---


Note that with the interference correction turned on, the apparent 270 PPM of Cs now disappears, and the interference correction magnitude is -95.91 %, which tells us that all the apparent Cs was in fact spurious.

So now we see only around ~180 PPM of potassium and maybe 20-30 PPM of Ca, and that is all.
Title: Re: Trace element interpretation
Post by: Probeman on April 04, 2016, 02:23:58 PM
Let's compare the above CalChemist RbTiOPO4, with some crystals grown many decades ago at UC Berkeley:

Un    5 UC Berkeley RbTiOPO4 #1, Results in Elemental Weight Percents

ELEM:        K      Cs      Na      Ca      Mg      Ti       P      Rb       O
TYPE:     ANAL    ANAL    ANAL    ANAL    ANAL    ANAL    ANAL    SPEC    SPEC
BGDS:     MULT    MULT    MULT    MULT    MULT     EXP     EXP
TIME:   320.00  320.00  400.00  400.00  400.00   80.00   80.00     ---     ---
BEAM:    99.72   99.72   99.72   99.72   99.72   99.72   99.72     ---     ---

ELEM:        K      Cs      Na      Ca      Mg      Ti       P      Rb       O   SUM 
    49    .137    .017    .002    .002    .000  19.558  12.562  34.979  32.741 100.000
    50    .137    .019    .002    .002    .000  19.526  12.463  34.979  32.741  99.870
    51    .139    .017    .003    .003    .000  19.578  12.475  34.979  32.741  99.935
    52    .138    .019    .003    .002    .001  19.567  12.475  34.979  32.741  99.925
    53    .138    .015    .002    .003    .000  19.541  12.445  34.979  32.741  99.865
    54    .137    .021    .003    .002    .000  19.587  12.481  34.979  32.741  99.951
    55    .139    .018    .004    .002    .000  19.553  12.457  34.979  32.741  99.893
    56    .136    .021    .003    .001    .000  19.556  12.467  34.979  32.741  99.904
    57    .138    .016    .005    .002    .001  19.579  12.479  34.979  32.741  99.940
    58    .137    .017    .004    .002    .000  19.591  12.451  34.979  32.741  99.922
    59    .137    .018    .006    .002   -.001  19.595  12.456  34.979  32.741  99.932
    60    .137    .023    .004    .002    .000  19.610  12.451  34.979  32.741  99.947
    61    .137    .021    .006    .001    .000  19.590  12.458  34.979  32.741  99.933
    62    .136    .020    .002    .003   -.001  19.637  12.454  34.979  32.741  99.970
    63    .137    .018    .003    .002   -.001  19.629  12.486  34.979  32.741  99.993
    64    .137    .018    .003    .003    .000  19.649  12.467  34.979  32.741  99.997
    65    .136    .018    .002    .001    .002  19.635  12.487  34.979  32.741 100.002

AVER:     .137    .019    .003    .002    .000  19.587  12.471  34.979  32.741  99.940
SDEV:     .001    .002    .001    .001    .001    .036    .027    .000    .000    .043
SERR:     .000    .000    .000    .000    .000    .009    .006    .000    .000
%RSD:      .59   10.57   32.94   32.18 1115.88     .18     .21     .00     .00
STDS:      374    1125     336     358     358      22    1016     ---     ---

STKF:    .1102   .2652   .0583   .1676   .0644   .5616   .1496     ---     ---
STCT:   9176.1 11107.4  1548.1  7016.8  3268.1 64424.2  4922.8     ---     ---

UNKF:    .0012   .0002   .0000   .0000   .0000   .1763   .0760     ---     ---
UNCT:     99.0     6.7      .3      .8      .0 20223.5  2500.9     ---     ---
UNBG:     46.1   155.7    11.1    40.4    22.3   132.7     7.4     ---     ---

ZCOR:   1.1546  1.1605  2.6835  1.0545  1.8328  1.1111  1.6404     ---     ---
KRAW:    .0108   .0006   .0002   .0001   .0000   .3139   .5080     ---     ---
PKBG:     3.15    1.04    1.03    1.02    1.00  153.38  336.85     ---     ---
INT%:     ----  -58.31    ----    ----    ----    ----    ----     ---     ---


Ok, this material is much less pure than the CalChemist material. Specifically around 1400 PPM of potassium, 190 PPM of Cs (note the interference correction magnitude was only some 58%), and possibly 30 PPM of Na and 20 PPM of Ca , but no Mg. 

Of course for use as standard for trace Rb, none of these impurities really matter, but it is an interesting exercise.

Now, if we look at the calculated detection limits for these RbTiOPO4 materials we obtain the following for our single point detection limits:

Detection limit at 99 % Confidence in Elemental Weight Percent (Single Line):

ELEM:        K      Cs      Na      Ca      Mg      Ti       P
    37    .001    .002    .002    .001    .001    .002    .003
    38    .001    .002    .002    .001    .001    .002    .003
    39    .001    .002    .002    .001    .001    .002    .003
    40    .001    .002    .002    .001    .001    .002    .003
    41    .001    .002    .002    .001    .001    .002    .002
    42    .001    .002    .002    .001    .001    .002    .003
    43    .001    .002    .002    .001    .001    .002    .003
    44    .001    .002    .002    .001    .001    .002    .003
    45    .001    .002    .002    .001    .001    .002    .002
    46    .001    .002    .002    .001    .001    .002    .003
    47    .001    .002    .002    .001    .001    .002    .003
    48    .001    .002    .002    .001    .001    .002    .003

AVER:     .001    .002    .002    .001    .001    .002    .003
SDEV:     .000    .000    .000    .000    .000    .000    .000
SERR:     .000    .000    .000    .000    .000    .000    .000


And for the t-test predictions on the average we obtain:

Detection Limit (t-test) in Elemental Weight Percent (Average of Sample):

ELEM:        K      Cs      Na      Ca      Mg      Ti       P
  60ci    .000    .000    .000    .000    .000     ---     ---
  80ci    .000    .001    .001    .000    .000     ---     ---
  90ci    .000    .001    .001    .000    .000     ---     ---
  95ci    .000    .001    .001    .001    .000     ---     ---
  99ci    .001    .001    .001    .001    .001     ---     ---


So basically 10 PPM is our 99% confidence interval t-test for the average.  Not too bad.
Title: Re: Trace element interpretation
Post by: Probeman on April 04, 2016, 03:33:38 PM
Finally, since we did measure the RbTiOPO4 for Ti using a TiO2 standard (we had to for the interference correction), and also P using a YPO4 standard let's take a look at the major element chemistry:

The ideal formula for this material is:

ELEM:       Rb      Ti       P       O
ELWT:   34.979  19.604  12.676  32.741


If we run the default Armstrong/Reed (modified) correction we obtain:

Un    4 CalChemist RbTiOPO4 #2, Results in Elemental Weight Percents

ELEM:        K      Cs      Na      Ca      Mg      Ti       P      Rb       O
TYPE:     ANAL    ANAL    ANAL    ANAL    ANAL    ANAL    ANAL    SPEC    SPEC
BGDS:     MULT    MULT    MULT    MULT    MULT     EXP     EXP
TIME:   320.00  320.00  400.00  400.00  400.00   80.00   80.00     ---     ---
BEAM:    99.63   99.63   99.63   99.63   99.63   99.63   99.63     ---     ---

ELEM:        K      Cs      Na      Ca      Mg      Ti       P      Rb       O   SUM 
    37    .018    .002    .001    .003    .000  19.428  12.506  34.979  32.741  99.677
    38    .017    .002    .000    .003    .000  19.454  12.521  34.979  32.741  99.719
    39    .017    .003    .000    .001   -.001  19.486  12.505  34.979  32.741  99.731
    40    .018    .003    .001    .003    .000  19.517  12.542  34.979  32.741  99.803
    41    .019    .001    .002    .004    .001  19.466  12.499  34.979  32.741  99.711
    42    .018    .002   -.002    .002   -.001  19.447  12.511  34.979  32.741  99.698
    43    .018    .001    .001    .002   -.001  19.472  12.568  34.979  32.741  99.780
    44    .018    .000    .002    .002    .000  19.445  12.496  34.979  32.741  99.682
    45    .018    .000   -.002    .002    .000  19.489  12.478  34.979  32.741  99.704
    46    .018   -.002    .001    .003    .000  19.528  12.567  34.979  32.741  99.835
    47    .018    .001   -.001    .003   -.001  19.489  12.543  34.979  32.741  99.772
    48    .019    .002    .001    .002   -.001  19.507  12.506  34.979  32.741  99.756

AVER:     .018    .001    .000    .002    .000  19.477  12.520  34.979  32.741  99.739
SDEV:     .000    .002    .001    .001    .001    .031    .029    .000    .000    .050


If we run all the matrix corrections we obtain:

Summary of All Calculated (averaged) Matrix Corrections:
Un    4  CalChemist RbTiOPO4 #2
LINEMU   Henke (LBL, 1985) < 10KeV / CITZMU > 10KeV

Elemental Weight Percents:
ELEM:        K      Cs      Na      Ca      Mg      Ti       P      Rb       O   TOTAL
     1    .018    .001    .000    .002    .000  19.477  12.520  34.979  32.741  99.739   Armstrong/Love Scott (default)
     2    .017    .001    .000    .002    .000  19.529  12.346  34.979  32.741  99.615   Conventional Philibert/Duncumb-Reed
     3    .018    .001    .000    .002    .000  19.729  12.257  34.979  32.741  99.728   Heinrich/Duncumb-Reed
     4    .018    .001    .000    .002    .000  19.391  12.546  34.979  32.741  99.678   Love-Scott I
     5    .018    .001    .000    .002    .000  19.478  12.557  34.979  32.741  99.776   Love-Scott II
     6    .017    .001    .000    .002    .000  18.913  12.456  34.979  32.741  99.109   Packwood Phi(pz) (EPQ-91)
     7    .018    .001    .000    .002    .000  19.421  12.602  34.979  32.741  99.764   Bastin (original) Phi(pz)
     8    .018    .001    .000    .002    .000  19.401  12.718  34.979  32.741  99.860   Bastin PROZA Phi(pz) (EPQ-91)
     9    .018    .001    .000    .002    .000  19.340  12.560  34.979  32.741  99.641   Pouchou and Pichoir-Full (Original)
    10    .018    .001    .000    .002    .000  19.379  12.505  34.979  32.741  99.625   Pouchou and Pichoir-Simplified (XPP)

AVER:     .018    .001    .000    .002    .000  19.406  12.507  34.979  32.741  99.654
SDEV:     .000    .000    .000    .000    .000    .205    .130    .000    .000    .206
SERR:     .000    .000    .000    .000    .000    .065    .041    .000    .000

MIN:      .017    .001    .000    .002    .000  18.913  12.257  34.979  32.741  99.109
MAX:      .018    .001    .000    .002    .000  19.729  12.718  34.979  32.741  99.860


Pretty darn good for such an extrapolation.
Title: Re: Trace element interpretation
Post by: John Donovan on April 08, 2016, 07:50:30 AM
So, finally another look at the accuracy of the major elements in our RbTiOPO4 material, where we apply the "fast Monte Carlo" quantification method in Probe for EPMA (derived from the Penepma Penfluor/Fanal Monte-Carlo package by Cesc Salvat and Xavier Llovet), and when we do this we get the best accuracy so far:

Un    4 CalChemist RbTiOPO4 #2, Results in Elemental Weight Percents

ELEM:        K      Cs      Na      Ca      Mg      Ti       P      Rb       O   SUM 
    37    .018    .002    .001    .003    .000  19.646  12.685  34.979  32.741 100.074
    38    .018    .002    .000    .003    .000  19.672  12.701  34.979  32.741 100.117
    39    .018    .002    .000    .001   -.001  19.704  12.685  34.979  32.741 100.128
    40    .018    .003    .001    .003    .000  19.735  12.722  34.979  32.741 100.202
    41    .019    .001    .002    .004    .001  19.684  12.679  34.979  32.741 100.109
    42    .019    .002   -.002    .002   -.001  19.665  12.690  34.979  32.741 100.096
    43    .018    .001    .001    .002   -.001  19.690  12.749  34.979  32.741 100.179
    44    .018    .000    .001    .002    .000  19.663  12.675  34.979  32.741 100.079
    45    .018    .000   -.002    .002    .000  19.707  12.657  34.979  32.741 100.102
    46    .019   -.003    .001    .003    .000  19.746  12.748  34.979  32.741 100.234
    47    .018    .000   -.001    .003   -.001  19.708  12.724  34.979  32.741 100.171
    48    .019    .002    .001    .002   -.001  19.726  12.685  34.979  32.741 100.154

AVER:     .018    .001    .000    .002    .000  19.696  12.700  34.979  32.741 100.137
SDEV:     .000    .002    .001    .001    .001    .031    .029    .000    .000    .051

:)

Remember, the ideal formula for RbTiOPO4 is 19.604 wt.% for Ti and 12.676 wt.% for P.  This is using the polynomial (three coefficient) alpha factor fit method. If we fit non-linear (4 coefficient) alpha factors we get:

Un    4 CalChemist RbTiOPO4 #2, Results in Elemental Weight Percents

ELEM:        K      Cs      Na      Ca      Mg      Ti       P      Rb       O   SUM 
    37    .018    .002    .001    .003    .000  19.667  12.690  34.979  32.741 100.100
    38    .018    .002    .000    .003    .000  19.693  12.706  34.979  32.741 100.142
    39    .018    .002    .000    .001   -.001  19.725  12.690  34.979  32.741 100.154
    40    .018    .003    .001    .003    .000  19.757  12.727  34.979  32.741 100.228
    41    .019    .001    .002    .004    .001  19.705  12.684  34.979  32.741 100.135
    42    .019    .002   -.002    .002   -.001  19.686  12.695  34.979  32.741 100.122
    43    .018    .001    .001    .002   -.001  19.711  12.754  34.979  32.741 100.205
    44    .018    .000    .001    .002    .000  19.684  12.680  34.979  32.741 100.105
    45    .018    .000   -.002    .002    .000  19.728  12.662  34.979  32.741 100.128
    46    .019   -.003    .001    .003    .000  19.767  12.753  34.979  32.741 100.260
    47    .018    .000   -.001    .003   -.001  19.729  12.729  34.979  32.741 100.197
    48    .019    .002    .001    .002   -.001  19.747  12.690  34.979  32.741 100.180

AVER:     .018    .001    .000    .002    .000  19.717  12.705  34.979  32.741 100.163
SDEV:     .000    .002    .001    .001    .001    .031    .029    .000    .000    .051

If the crystal is actually exactly stoichiometric, we might conclude our results are very slightly worse with the non-linear method, but still we seem to have excellent accuracy with the fast Monte-Carlo method.
Title: Re: Trace element interpretation
Post by: Probeman on March 06, 2019, 10:55:53 AM
I've decided to start discussing my attempts to analyze trace elements (Na, Ba, Rb, Sr and Fe) in an orthoclase matrix (Si, Al and K). For these attempts I'm using the MAD-10 orthoclase from CM Taylor because I have some trace element chemistry data on it.  If anyone else has performed ICPMS or other bulk trace element methods on this material please feel free to post your data.

The composition of the MAD-10 orthoclase in my standard database is:

St  374 Orthoclase MAD-10
TakeOff = 40.0  KiloVolt = 15.0  Density =  2.590  Type = feldspar

Specimen from Chuck Taylor
Fe2O3=2.01% (EPMA by J. Donovan) (as FeO=1.88% + 0.13% O)
K2O=15.49%, Na2O=1.07% (Flame photometry by J. Hampel)
BaO=0.06%, Rb2O=0.03% (EPMA by J. Donovan)
Sr=12 ppm, Rb=600 ppm (Isotope dilution)
Oxide and Elemental Composition

Average Total Oxygen:       45.798     Average Total Weight%:  100.009
Average Calculated Oxygen:  45.671     Average Atomic Number:   11.991
Average Excess Oxygen:        .127     Average Atomic Weight:   21.490

ELEM:     SiO2   Al2O3     FeO     K2O    Na2O     BaO    Rb2O       O
XRAY:      ka      ka      ka      ka      ka      la      la      ka
OXWT:   64.793  16.720   1.880  15.490    .910    .060    .030    .127
ELWT:   30.286   8.849   1.461  12.859    .675    .054    .027  45.798
KFAC:    .2480   .0703   .0123   .1132   .0036   .0004   .0002   .1733
ZCOR:   1.2211  1.2594  1.1909  1.1361  1.8720  1.3740  1.2882  2.6422
AT% :   23.171   7.047    .562   7.067    .631    .008    .007  61.507
24 O:    9.041   2.750    .219   2.757    .246    .003    .003  24.000

My trust is in the Rb and Sr by isotope dilution performed many decades ago by John Christensen when he and I were at UC Berkeley. But I would be interested in other bulk efforts in characterizing these trace elements.

I'll post more later this week, but just to start things off here is a plot of the Rb La region using a TAP Bragg crystal. 

(https://smf.probesoftware.com/gallery/395_06_03_19_10_45_44.png)

Note that on PET the Rb La line is up against the high spectrometer limit, while on TAP, the emission line is almost to the bottom of the spectrometer range.

The mostly horizontal blue line is the background model using an exponential fit. I'm not sure I'm very happy with it.
Title: MAD-10 orthoclase provenance?
Post by: JohnF on April 02, 2019, 11:01:26 AM
Does anyone know where MAD-10 orthoclase originated from? Geological source/region/location?
Title: Re: Trace element interpretation
Post by: Probeman on April 02, 2019, 01:24:54 PM
My memory is saying something to the effect that MAD stands for Madagascar.
Title: Re: Trace element interpretation
Post by: Anette von der Handt on April 02, 2019, 05:18:08 PM
I am quite confident that it is Orthoclase from Itrongahy, Madagascar.

https://www.mindat.org/loc-2273.html