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Light Element Crystal Refractive Index Values

Started by Probeman, November 21, 2014, 05:13:09 PM

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John Donovan

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Two questions on JEOL LDE crystals:

1. What is the 2d spacing for the JEOL LDEC? I see 100A but also 200A elsewhere. Which is correct?  😕

2. What is the refractive index (k) for LDEB?  The default K value (0.01) I have for LDEB is clearly too low! 
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irisbuisman

#46
John, Julien, -
Thank you for all your help and advice.  I have used the values Julien found/calculated for the LDE1 (2d = 61.4A and k= 0.013) and have now got an offset of just -0.0624 mm.  An incredible improvement over the close to 2mm offset I had before.

(my first forum post! and I finally figured out how!)

John Donovan

Quote from: irisbuisman on November 27, 2024, 09:05:40 AMJohn, Julien, -
Thank you for all your help and advice.  I have used the values Julien found/calculated for the LDE1 (2d = 61.4A and k= 0.013) and have now got an offset of just -0.0624 mm.  An incredible improvement over the close to 2mm offset I had before.

(my first forum post! and I finally figured out how!)

Very nice!
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John Donovan

John J. Donovan, Pres. 
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Anette von der Handt

Quote from: John Donovan on November 08, 2024, 10:12:45 AMTwo questions on JEOL LDE crystals:

1. What is the 2d spacing for the JEOL LDEC? I see 100A but also 200A elsewhere. Which is correct?  😕

It is 100A and uses V/C. I don't know where the 200A comes from, probably a type. With a 'd' of 200A you would not reach C Ka on a JEOL spectrometer.

Quote from: John Donovan on November 08, 2024, 10:12:45 AM2. What is the refractive index (k) for LDEB?  The default K value (0.01) I have for LDEB is clearly too low!

Julien got the following for his Boulder probe (see first page of this thread).
- LDEB (150 Å): 2d = 149.4 Å / k = 0.035
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John Donovan

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Quote from: Anette von der Handt on December 02, 2024, 12:42:42 PM
Quote from: John Donovan on November 08, 2024, 10:12:45 AMTwo questions on JEOL LDE crystals:

1. What is the 2d spacing for the JEOL LDEC? I see 100A but also 200A elsewhere. Which is correct?  😕

It is 100A and uses V/C. I don't know where the 200A comes from, probably a typo. With a 'd' of 200A you would not reach C Ka on a JEOL spectrometer.

Quote from: John Donovan on November 08, 2024, 10:12:45 AM2. What is the refractive index (k) for LDEB?  The default K value (0.01) I have for LDEB is clearly too low!


Julien got the following for his Boulder probe (see first page of this thread).
- LDEB (150 Å): 2d = 149.4 Å / k = 0.035

This is very helpful, thank-you!

Here is what we have as defaults for the LDE type Bragg crystals in our CRYSTALS.DAT file:

 "WSi45"     45.0           0.010       "o"     "ka"
 "LDE45"     45.0           0.010       "o"     "ka"
 "PC0"       45.0           0.006       "o"     "ka"
 "WSi55"     55.0           0.014       "o"     "ka"
 "LDE1L"     60.2           0.014       "o"     "ka"
 "WSi60"     61.0           0.01483     "o"     "ka"
 "LDE1"      61.1           0.01        "o"     "ka"
 "LDE1H"     62.5           0.008       "c"     "ka"
 "WSi63"     63.0           0.015       "o"     "ka"
 "LDE1L"     60.2           0.014       "o"     "ka"
 "PC1"       60.6           0.00832     "o"     "ka"
 "NiCrBN"    65.0           0.016       "o"     "ka"
 "LDE5L"     80.1           0.018       "c"     "ka"
 "NiC"       80.2           0.018       "c"     "ka"
 "LSM"       80.0           0.03        "c"     "ka"
 "PC2"       95.0           0.021       "c"     "ka"
 "OV95"      96.8           0.02        "c"     "ka"
 "STE"       98.0           0.          "c"     "ka"
 "LDE2"      98.0           0.01        "c"     "ka"
 "LDE2H"     98.0           0.01        "c"     "ka"
 "LDEC"      100.           0.04        "c"     "ka"
 "PbSd"      100.6          0.          "c"     "ka"
 "PbSTEA"    100.6          0.          "c"     "ka"
 "ODPB"      100.7          0.0175      "c"     "ka"
 "LDE6H"     120.0          0.02        "c"     "ka"
 "WC144"     144.0          0.03        "b"     "ka"
 "LDEB"      145.0          0.035       "b"     "ka"
 "PC25"      147.66         0.02        "b"     "ka"
 "OV160"     160.0          0.03        "b"     "ka"
 "MoB4C"     194.57         0.04        "b"     "ka"
 "OV200"     197.4          0.04        "b"     "ka"
 "LDE3H"     200.0          0.02        "be"    "ka"
 "PC3"       200.5          0.02        "be"    "ka"

Any other suggestions?
John J. Donovan, Pres. 
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